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The Payment in Practice podcast provides practice management, coding, and payment advice directly from ACOG’s Committee on Health Economics and Coding.

The Committee on Health Economics and Coding works diligently to advocate for ob-gyns and ensure that they are paid fairly for their work. All guidance presented in this podcast is up-to-date, evidence-based advice supplemented with ACOG Committee Opinions, physician tool kits, and the latest medical coding articles.

Payment in Practice Podcast: 2025 Episodes

Jump to Episodes

  1. CHEC Committee
  2. Global Coding Packages

  3. Relative Value Units

  4. The RUC Survey

  5. The Business of Medicine

  6. First Year of Practice

  1. Coding Advice
  2. From Residency to Private Practice

  3. Coding Tips
  4. Documentation

  5. Post-Event Interview from ACOG’s 2025 In-Person Coding Workshop

  6. Looking Ahead to 2026


Episodes

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Episode 1

CHEC Committee

In the first episode, viewers will learn about ACOG’s Committee for Health Economics and Coding, or CHEC, and how they advocate for ACOG fellows and members to receive fair and equitable payment for the physicians’ work and time.

Hear from CHEC’s Gregory DeMeo DO, FACOG, Gwenn Jackson MD, FACOG, and Eilean Attwood MD, MPH, FACOG.

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Episode 2

Global Coding Packages

In this podcast, viewers will learn about global coding packages, which ease the process of billing and coding by bundling the professional and ancillary services associated with a patient’s care into one bill. Viewers will hear expert opinions from CHEC’s Jon Hathaway, MD, PhD, FACOG; Nichole Mahnert, MD, FACOG; Gwenn Jackson, MD, FACOG; and Eilean Attwood, MD, MPH, FACOG.

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Episode 3

Relative Value Units

In this podcast, listeners will learn about relative value units, or RVUs, which insurance companies and health care systems use to quantify the value of a physician’s services. Listeners will hear from CHEC’s Jon Hathaway, MD, PhD, FACOG, regarding RVUs.

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Episode 4

The RUC Survey

In this podcast, listeners will learn about the RUC survey that is sent to ACOG members to determine the physician work and time for a modified or new procedure code. Listeners will hear about the survey and CPT code development process from the CHEC’s John Patrick Horton, MD, FACOG; David Holtz, MD, FACOG; and Lisa Hofler MD, MPH, MBA, FACOG.

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Episode 5

The Business of Medicine

In this podcast, listeners will learn about the business of medicine from an interview with Grant Cox, MD, FACOG, including why it’s important to learn business principles as physicians regardless of their career level, key business skills that he has learned over time, how to strike a balance between medical responsibilities and demands of the business, billing and coding, and so much more.

ACOG has partnered with the Medical Group Management Association and Johns Hopkins University to offer Business of Medicine coursework to help members learn more about the business of medicine. Additionally, ACOG offers our free ACOG Payment Advocacy & Policy Portal to help doctors and their administrative staff with their coding and billing questions.

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Episode 6

Your First Year of Practice

In this podcast, viewers will hear about the practical considerations of billing and coding to understand when you’re first out of residence and beginning your practice! Listeners will hear from the Committee on Health Economics and Coding’s David Holtz, MD, FACOG; Eilean Attwood, MD, MPH, FACOG; Judith Volkar, MD, FACOG; and Lauren MacAfee, MD, FACOG.

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Bonus Episode 1

Perinatal Mental Health and Tailored Prenatal Care

In our first bonus episode for Payment in Practice: Conversations for Ob-Gyns, we have a discussion with Alex Peahl, MD, MSc, FACOG, assistant professor at University of Michigan Health and a primary author of the new Tailored Prenatal Care guidance published by ACOG in May 2025. In the episode, we learn how maternal mental health was kept at the forefront during the guidance development process, and how tailored prenatal care can meet the individual needs of all pregnant patients, especially those with mental health conditions. 

This podcast is sponsored by Sage Therapeutics and Biogen.

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Bonus Episode 2

Perinatal Mental Health and Collaborative Care

This bonus episode for Payment in Practice: Conversations for Ob-Gyns provides actionable steps to establish a collaborative care model in obstetric practices for the management of perinatal mental health. Emily Miller, MD, MPH, FACOG, director of the Division of Maternal Fetal Medicine at the Warren Alpert Medical School of Brown University, talks about her work establishing an integrated behavioral health collaborative care team and how this model can be scaled for many practices.
This podcast episode is sponsored by Sage Therapeutics and Biogen.

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Episode 7

Coding Advice

In our seventh episode of the Payment in Practice: Conversations for Ob-Gyns podcast, viewers will hear guidance on how to effectively and efficiently code for obstetric and gynecologic care services from the Committee on Health Economics and Coding’s Gwenn Jackson, MD, FACOG; Nichole Mahnert, MD, FACOG; David Holtz, MD, FACOG; and Gregory DeMeo, DO, FACOG.

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Episode 8

From Residency to Private Practice

Meet Dr. Adrienne Zertuche, who went from residency to private practice. She talks about the advantages she enjoys being in a group practice, what she has learned and the importance of mentorship from the business of medicine perspective.

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Episode 9

Coding Tips

In this podcast, members of the Committee for Health Economics and Coding (CHEC) discuss things to remember when coding and documenting patient visits and how to avoid common errors when doing so. Learn more from CHEC experts John Horton, MD, FACOG; Jon Hathaway, MD, PhD, FACOG; Judith Volkar, MD, FACOG; and Lisa Hofler, MD, MPH, MBA, FACOG.

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Episode 10

Documentation

In this episode, Committee for Health Economics and Coding members Gwenn Jackson, MD, FACOG; Eilean Attwood MD, MPH, FACOG; and Lauren MacAfee, MD, FACOG, discuss best practices for documentation to support coding for obstetrics and gynecology services.

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Episode 11

Post-Event Interview from ACOG’s 2025 In-Person Coding Workshop

In this episode, coders, physicians, and panelists who attended the Payment in Practice: In Person! conference discuss their experiences learning about coding and billing from the Committee for Health Economics and Coding, or CHEC, and the Health and Payment Policy Team.

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Episode 12

Looking Ahead to 2026

In this episode, the Health and Payment Policy Team discusses their policy work in 2025 and looks ahead to their planned advocacy projects for 2026.

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